Our Navigator vision statement includes a compelling expression. It says: “Navigators are marked by a deep engagement with and obedience to the Scriptures as the Word of God.” In this conversation, our current international president, Mutua Mahiaini, and his predecessor, Mike Treneer share what “deep engagement” with the Scriptures means. How have they engaged with the Bible on a personal level? How have the Scriptures shaped them as international leaders? What does it mean for Navigators to lead others from the Scriptures?

As Mutua said: “I need to have a strong grasp of the Scriptures so that they might have a strong grasp on me.” What might happen to our movement if we don’t allow God to “grasp” us through his Word?